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2017 Acura NSX discounts almost make up for those crazy dealer markups

If those sky-high “market adjustments” -- aka “dealer markups” -- on hot new performance cars make your blood boil, know that balance exists in the universe, and at the moment, that balance is taking the form of brand-new 2017 Acura NSX models with chopped prices.

For example, here’s a $204,500 car offered for the low, low price of $189,500. That doesn’t exactly bring the price down to used Accord territory, but the price difference is more than enough to get you a few sets of tires and a couple tanks of gas. Other NSXs have smaller discounts -- one or two thousand bucks off the sticker. The rare car might even offer more of a bargain; Jalopnik managed to find one for $44,800 off the sticker at a dealer in New Jersey. That's almost enough to get you the new car and a classic NSX to park next to it!

Still, the majority of the cars we’ve seen listed online are selling for MSRP, or even slightly above it. This lends credence to Acura’s claim that the discounted units are, in at least some cases, spec cars ordered early on to serve as display models to build hype at dealerships.

Indeed, the NSX we linked, with its blue paint, light interior and black wheels, looks a lot like the press car we’ve driven. Many NSX buyers are going to want a car built to their specifications, and they might even want to visit the factory in Ohio to watch their particular car rolling down the assembly line. These custom cars won’t show in any listings online, though we assume there won’t be any cash on the hood involved in their pricing.


3 Mercedes-AMG Project One facts we learned from AMG chief Tobias Moers


We got a chance to chat with Tobias Moers, CEO of Mercedes-AMG, to gain a little insight into the company’s incredible upcoming hypercar, Project One. Moers got right to the point, and here are three bits of information -- including some myth busting -- we learned:

One: We believe Lewis Hamilton helped develop the Project One, but he hasn’t yet driven it. Hamilton lent a hand in the development process, but not in the way you think -- at least not yet. The powertrain is close to the Formula 1 car, which Hamilton helped develop, and many simulations of the car have been run, so it’s very possible that Hamilton contributed there, too. But he has not yet driven any test mules or prototypes. So far, the engineers have more miles on the car than anyone.

Two: Yes, it uses Formula 1 tech, but from what years? 2015 and 2016 according to Moers. “2015 and 2016 was the same spec, so it is 15/16 Formula 1 spec.” True, but certainly the powertrain was developed throughout that time period, so we suspect it’s effectively a 2015 power unit from the beginning of that season. This unit comes from Mercedes-AMG High Performance Powertrains in Brixworth, England, just as the Formula 1 power unit does.
 

Three: Over 1,000 system hp, but from where?

Mercedes claims over 1,000 hp, and we believe them. But where does that power come from? Of course, the single biggest contributor is the super-high-tech turbo 1.6-liter V6 with pneumatic valves and an 11,000-rpm redline, which produces 510 hp. Attached to the crankshaft is a 161-hp electric motor to help motivate the car along. Total power in back, 671 hp.

Up front are two more electric motors to power the front wheels; they are the same as the motor attached to the crankshaft, producing 161 hp each, or 322 hp. Total power comes to 993 U.S. spec hp, which converts to 1,006 metric ponies, or pferds, since we’re talking about a German car. And we’re willing to bet those are conservative estimates -- look for at least 1,100 hp from the production car.

The initial Mercedes-AMG Project One model run may already be spoken for, but technologies from it will certainly make its way down market -- think of the Porsche Panamera Turbo S E Hybrid and its relationship to the Porsche 918 Spyder. It’s only a matter of time before a “regular” AMG product includes some Project One, hence F1, tech.



Read more >> These 10 (Well, 9) cars have the fastest laps around the Nurburgring

These 10 (Well, 9) cars have the fastest laps around the Nurburgring


Nurburgring record lap times are not without their controversy. Some say it ruins the tuning of the cars, making them too stiff on normal roads. Some manufacturers have been caught using non-street-legal tires or special suspension setups. Also, the definition of “production car” can be debated; however, the 12.9-mile, 154-turn Nurburgring is technically a toll road, meaning the regulations of Germany and the European Union apply.

Personally, if you want a street car that’s built for a track day, we think it is a good measuring stick and development tool. If you don’t want that out of your daily driver, you may think differently.
For this list, the cars have to be street legal, use OEM tires and have uncut onboard video proof.

 
10. Mercedes-AMG GT R
 
The Mercedes-AMG GT-R wore Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tires for its 10th-place run back in December 2016. The RWD German rocket has a 4.0-liter twin-turbo V8 making 577 hp in the most extreme version of the AMG GT. It uses supplemental electric rear steering to increase maneuverability.


9. Nissan GT-R Nismo N-Attack

The Nismo version of Nissan’s GT-R is the quick one -- Nismo of course stands for Nissan Motorsports, but this is the one with the extra tuning. It ran on Dunlop SP Sport Maxx GT tires, with Michael Krumm at the helm. Its time of 7 minutes, 8.679 seconds had it in eighth place, until that pesky GT2 knocked it back one.


8 & 7. Dodge Viper ACR

The next two spots are both held by the Dodge Viper -- the first American car on this list, by the way. It ran a 7:01.3 with Lance David Arnold at the wheel and a 7:03.45 with Dominik Farnbacher, of Farnbacher-Loles fame. The Viper, as you know, has a V10 and makes 640 hp. The ACR version, which both of these were, gets extra aero, including a rear wing big enough to block out the sun.

6. Lamborghini Aventator 750-4 Superveloce

The all-wheel drive Superveloce now comes in sixth on the list. It’s 744-hp (750 PS) V12 is good for a time of 6 minutes, 59.73 seconds on Pirelli P-Zero Corsa tires. Marco Mapelli, a Lamborghini factory driver, was behind the wheel.


5. Porsche 918 Spyder

The 918 Spyder was and is a marvel of modern technology. Its 'Ring run happened in 2013 when it clicked off a time of 6 minutes, 57 seconds. The Spyder’s 4.6-liter V8 and two electric motors deliver an astounding 875 hp and 944 lb-ft to the rear wheels.

4. Radical SR8

This is the more “pedestrian” version of the Radical SR8 LM. It has a few less ponies, but it weighs about the same. It set a time of 6 minutes, 55 seconds way back in 2005. Driver Michael Vergers was at the wheel for both Radical runs.


3. Lamborghini Huracan Performante

The all-wheel-drive Huracan Performante gets active aero and carbon bits at the corners, along with a 640-hp V10. It comes in at cool $274,390, and it held second place with a time of 6 minutes, 52.01 seconds on the 'Ring list for about a year, until Porsche bumped it down.

2. Radical SR8 LM

This is a purpose-built track car that’s barely legal on the street. It uses a teeny, screaming 2.8-liter V8 making 455 hp. It weighs about 1,600 pounds, hence its insane lap time of 6 minutes, 48.28 seconds.


1. Porsche 911 GT2 RS

We just saw this lap. Porsche driver Lars Kern laid down a time of 6 minutes, 47.25 seconds after a handful of tries. It was using Michelin Pilot Cup 2 tires, along with a 700-hp 3.8-liter twin-turbocharged flat-six motor. It’s good to have an undebatable production car at the top of the leaderboard.

We’ll be updating this list as new challengers come to the table. Speaking of, there’s a new crop of F1-inspired hyper GT cars on their way from McLaren, Mercedes and Aston Martin; maybe one of them can knock Porsche off the top spot. Regardless, it’ll be fun to watch.


Read more >> Future Ferraris: No official crossover, at least not yet

Future Ferraris: No official crossover, at least not yet


Ferrari will incorporate more hybrids into its core lineup while it considers whether to follow other luxury makes into the utility market and whether to launch an entry-level subbrand.

Portofino: Ferrari's entry-level vehicle debuted at this month's Frankfurt auto show as a 2018 model. Essentially a heavily revised version of the California T that it replaces, the hardtop convertible sheds about 160 pounds and adds 38 hp to its 3.9-liter twin-turbo V-8 for a total of 591 hp. Pricing starts around $210,000. A freshening is likely for 2022.

488: Introduced for 2016 as a 458 replacement, the 488 GTB and its Spider sibling use a 3.9-liter twin-turbocharged V-6 to make 661 hp and 561 pounds-feet of torque. A more track-focused iteration is due next year, possibly carrying the GTO moniker; look for the standard recipe of less weight and more power when this car arrives in 2018. A year or so later the 488 will get a redesign and a new name. Look for it to continue with a turbo V-8 and the likely addition of a hybrid system.

812 Superfast:​ The 812 Superfast is a thorough freshening of the F12 Berlinetta, Ferrari's front-engine V-12 grand tourer, released for the 2018 model year. The update gives the 812 the most powerful engine in a front-engine Ferrari ever: 789 hp and 530 pounds-feet of torque. It's also likely to be the last naturally aspirated V-12 model in Ferrari's history: Its successor, due in 2020, will be a hybrid and could even loop turbocharging into the mix.

Crossover: Like nearly all other exotic brands (save for McLaren), Ferrari is finding it difficult to resist the cash and volume that a utility vehicle adds. The automaker is adamant that such a vehicle won't be an SUV but that's likely more a question of semantics. If a crossover gets the green light, it would have four seats and a practical bent like the current GTC4Lusso; four doors are likely. If the vehicle reaches production, look for hybrid versions involving V-6 or V-8 powertrains and a production date no later than 2022.

GTC4Lusso:​ Freshened for 2017, the GTC4- Lusso had been the FF, a two-door, four-seat all-wheel-drive shooting brake with a front- mounted V-12 engine. In addition to the new name, the update brought revised styling and a bump in horsepower. It also brought the GTC4Lusso T, a lower-priced model with rear-wheel drive and the 3.9-liter twin-turbocharged V-8 Ferrari uses elsewhere in its lineup. If Ferrari adds a crossover, this car likely will be dropped.

Dino:​ Sergio Marchionne, chairman of Ferrari and CEO of its former parent company, Fiat Chrysler Automobiles, has publicly offered support for an entry-level Dino subbrand, though support within Ferrari is mixed. If it happens, the car likely would be positioned as a more performance-oriented, midengine alternative to the GT ethos of the front-engine Portofino. Ferrari could source a twin-turbo V-6 from FCA's Maserati and Alfa Romeo brands or use the 3.9-liter turbocharged V-8 from elsewhere in FCA's lineup; the addition of a hybrid system is expected. A formal decision is set for 2018, which means production likely wouldn't start until 2020 at the earliest.

The 2018 Alfa Romeo Stelvio Quadrifoglio appears to be the SUV King of the ‘Ring


Putting the numbers into perspective, the Stelvio lapped the ‘Ring faster than the previous-generation Ford GT, an E60 (2005-10) BMW M5 and a Lamborghini Gallardo. That’s not bad if you need something to haul the kids around and then hit your local road course without swapping cars.
All that being said, there is some controversy surrounding the lap time: Popular racing website Bridge to Gantry points out the video is cut together from multiple laps. Now, that might not undermine the lap time itself, which was likely officially timed from one lap, but it does raise questions about how the numbers were achieved. Certain sections of the lap repeat on the video, while others are simply omitted. We've reached out to Alfa for comment.

With a slew of hot crossovers hitting the street soon, we imagine the revolving door of Nurburgring records will keep spinning. Until then, Alfa holds the record for the fastest production four-door sedan and the fastest SUV around the ‘Ring.
Check out the video above and see if you can spot the inconsistencies.


McLaren's next hypercar will be an F1-inspired three-seater


McLaren revealed a bit more info on its upcoming Aston Martin Valkyrie- and Mercedes Project One-fighting hyper GT car. It’s codenamed BP23 and it “will be the most powerful and most aerodynamic road-going McLaren ever produced.”

McLaren says development is underway at the McLaren Special Operations division. The B in the name stands for bespoke -- only 106 will be made, all already sold out -- and the 3 stands for three seats. P2 is "project two." We’re expecting a McLaren F1-style road car with one seat in the middle and two set slightly back.

McLaren BP23 three-seat hyper GT
Dead center, the way man was meant to drive. 

This mule appears to use the 720S platform for testing. We’re not sure if that means it will continue using the Monocage II body structure or if the company is literally just testing the seat arrangement. It’ll also be a hybrid, says McLaren. We wouldn’t be angry with a P1 powertrain, a 720S body and an F1 seat setup.

With the advent of the BP23, we could be witnessing the next great triumvirate hypercar race, after the P1, Porsche 918 Spyder, LaFerrari showdown from a few years ago.

As always, it’s a great time to be an enthusiast, a great time to a rich guy and a great time to be alive.

McLaren BP23 three-seat hyper GT i2
This will be the fastest McLaren ever, so expect a top speed well in excess of 200 mph.

We get inside Porsche’s secret museum


“We ask that you not take any photographs of the outside of the building, or of the street, or that you say where this is…” said Porsche Museum leiter Alexander Klein.

This place was a secret and a pretty well-kept secret at that. You may know the public Porsche Museum in Stuttgart. This is not that. If you want to see cool old Porsches, you can see many, many cool race cars and production cars (and even a tractor) at the public Porsche Museum at Porscheplatzz 1, 70435 Stuttgart, Germany. We saw that place, too, on a recent visit, and it is well worth your time to stop by. The public Porsche Museum has everything from the 356/1, the very first 356 (and it is truly a thing of beauty), to race cars like the 550 Spyders, 917s and 962s, as well as modern production cars you may have lusted after. You may still lust after them.

But in all, Porsche owns 575 historic race cars, prototypes and early development mules that went on to become production cars, and it can’t keep all those at the public museum in Stuttgart. So it has about 300 or so cars at this secret warehouse in… well, we won’t say where. And we might not even be able to find it now; we went there on a shuttle bus and we were a little delirious from jet lag and dehydration.

But once we got inside, hoo baby!

We love the 908 and would love to drive one. Jerry?
The first thing you see are the race cars, which are parked near the front of the huge 9000-square-meter building (almost 100,000 square feet to you and me). There are 160 race cars here. Right there in front is a Jo Siffert/Derek Bell Gulf-liveried 917. Next to that is a Derek Bell/Hans Stuck/Al Holbert Rothman’s-liveried 962. Across from those is Jo Siffert’s 917-10 Can-Am in RC Cola colors. And a Gulf 908/3 from the 1970 Targa Florio. It goes on: A 906, a 917 with the prototype flat 16 engine that never saw competition, the 911 GT3R hybrid race car driven by American Patrick Long, Dan Gurney’s 1962 F1 car, Porsche Indycars stacked in wooden crates with plexiglass panels on the end so you could look in, and others too numerous to name.

But it isn’t all race cars.

“There are race cars, R&D cars, prototypes, all kind of steps from the first idea of a car and all the steps in between,” said Klein.

For instance, how do you make a four-seater Porsche? There was an early stretched 911 with back seats that look like they’d fit live adult humans, for one. There were some ideas that might have looked better than the current Panamera.

There was a 984 design study for a mid-engine roadster done 10 years before the Boxster came out. There was a 989 that ran around the Nardo oval with a 200-liter gas tank trying to set speed records.
There were rows and rows of 356s, 911s and 924/944/968 cars, some in prototype form, some in production trim. One section had 911s stacked in racks three high to the ceiling. There was a Cayenne convertible that could give the Nissan Murano CrossCabriolet a run for its ugliness.

It's all fascinating. And all very secret. Which it will stay.

Lamborghini Aventador S track review: 730 hp and an aptly named ego mode


“We’re putting you two in your own run group,” said Dean DiGiacomo, Lamborghini’s Super Trofeo series factory driver and chief instructor for this event, as I anxiously awaited my stint on the Auto Club Speedway Sports Car Circuit. This would normally be joyous news to me, as smaller run groups in lead/follow lapping typically reduce the chances of the pace being held back by a colleague with less on-track experience. But the other journalist he pointed to was Justin Bell, a former FIA GT champion and 24-Hours of Le Mans class-winner, and it suddenly became clear that I would be the anchor in this equation.

But I’m getting a little ahead of myself here. That’s easy to do with 730 hp at the command of your right foot, and a naturally aspirated, 6.5-liter V12 singing behind your head.

The Aventador S replaces the new-in-2012 standard Aventador and, even at first glance, it’s clearly more track focused. For example, Lamborghini redesigned the front end to improve airflow to the engine’s radiators and enhance aerodynamics, which also ratchets up the visual aggression.

Paired with a revised rear splitter, Lamborghini says the S is now 50 percent more aero efficient while providing 130 percent more downforce than the outgoing model. Some of the additional downforce comes from a new active rear wing, which varies between three different positions based on speed and selected drive mode. Speaking of drive modes, the S gains a much-needed (though perhaps questionably named) “ego” mode, which adds a fourth option alongside strada, sport and corsa that allows the driver to create a preset which brings together their preferred traction, steering and suspension settings.

“You’re going to feel a big difference between this car and the standard Aventador out on the track,” DiGiacomo assured us during the technical briefing. Among the various updates, its handling revisions are, perhaps, the most crucial, including revised suspension geometry, a real-time variable damping system, and a new four-wheel steering system.

Originally debuted last year in the $2 million, ultra-exclusive Centenario, this setup functions similarly to most other four-wheel steering systems currently available. At low speeds the rear wheels turn in the opposite direction of the front wheels, while at higher speeds -- above roughly 82 mph -- all four wheels move in the same direction. Lamborghini’s implementation is particularly aggressive, offering up to 1.5 degrees of counter steering, which effectively reduces the wheelbase by 700mm and extends it by 500mm when all four wheels turn in unison.


The system is most evident at lower speeds, where the car’s eagerness to turn in can actually take a moment to acclimate to. That four-wheel steering system is teamed with a particularly quick rack that makes the Aventador S more willing to change direction than its size might suggest. It also improves the car’s turning radius, which is nice around town.

If anyone ever considered the Aventador a one-trick pony, those days are over. In corsa mode with minimal intrusion from the electronics and a 20/80 torque split biased toward the rear wheels, a midcorner throttle application can kick the back end out and set the car into a modest four-wheel drift. The chassis feels surprisingly lively, yet it’s easy to manage at speed. It takes ham-fisted inputs to make the Aventador S understeer.

Justin Bell certainly wouldn’t be ham-fisted. Would I be able to keep up? At first, I assumed my ego would be saved by the lead car keeping us corralled during the session for the equipment’s sake. Though it lacks elevation change, this 2.8-mile circuit makes use of about half the superspeedway. Cars like the Aventador S flirt with 170 mph by the end of the main straight before scrubbing off speed for turn one. Surely Lamborghini would guard their coveted, $421,000 flagship model from any abuse. Wouldn’t they?


They would not. The first hint came to me from DiGiacomo’s suggestion to switch the drive mode to corsa (race), before we headed out of the pits. Confirmation came shortly thereafter, when Lamborghini Blancpain Super Trofeo series champion Shinya Michimi set our speed at “let’s see what you’ve got.”

With Bell sent out behind me, I was essentially sandwiched between a pair of motorsport champions. Auto Club’s sports car course is fast and certainly favors high horsepower cars like the S, but the infield also offers a few surprises, like the late apex at turn 9 and the kink that essentially comprises turns 11 and 12, the latter a section which can be taken flat out in this car but will keep you on your toes as the new suspension setup allows the back end to step out for half a breath. I’ve long said that what I lack in talent I do my best to make up for in courage, and the generous back straight allowed me to mash the throttle to put a little bit of distance between myself and Bell, who was likely falling asleep behind me. But we’re hard on those big carbon ceramics again for 13, and the start of another technical section gathered our trio back together.

Once we’d reached the oval portion of the track, Lamborghini’s latest party piece could really be uncorked. As the infield course funneled traffic out on to the wide banking, I dipped back into the seemingly endless wealth of grunt on tap from the V12. The single-clutch seven-speed automated-manual that so often felt out of sorts at low speeds seemed to find its calling here at wide open throttle, delivering upshifts with recoil akin to a 12-gauge shotgun as the digital speedometer rapidly climbed past 160 mph. With the baritone wail of the V12 behind me and my body reflexively bracing for each shunt of the gearbox, the experience was genuinely visceral


Midway through our session, Bell and I switched positions and I was left to trail this particularly quick pair. I looked at this as a free coaching session and did my best to replicate Bell’s line and braking points, but inevitably the gap widened, particularly through the technical sections. I managed to reign them back in on the fast stretches to some degree -- perhaps my confidence in the capability of the Aventador S allowed me to momentarily forget that the car I was pounding on retails for nearly half a million dollars.

It’s clearly a capable track car, but a heavy one. The new exhaust system is lighter, but that’s offset by the four-wheel steering system. Overall, the Aventador S lugs around roughly two-tons of weight in U.S. specification. That mass is particularly evident when stomping on those near-infallible brakes from high speeds, as the substantial amount of hardware situated behind you starts to wiggle around a bit. And while the new steering and suspension bits do indeed bolster the car’s cornering prowess, ultimately there’s only so much that engineering can do to fight the realities of physics.

While imperfect, there’s no shortage of things to lust over when considering the Lamborghini Aventador S. We live in an era that increasingly favors small-displacement turbocharging and the prioritization of civility over emotion. The fact that this car can leave just about anyone, even jaded auto journalists, breathless and giggling like children after driving it is irrefutable proof that Lamborghini’s approach to supercar building remains a worthwhile endeavor.